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    Post by tech_frix Sat Jul 04, 2009 6:29 pm

    primaroti wrote:lebih baik awk abik ati hd 4870 1 gb daripada awk abik geforce tu.....

    jgn lupa ek post benchmark or apa2 bukti yang abang boleh post utk menyokong pendapat abang tu... Very Happy
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    Post by syukurz Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:48 pm

    hmm abg tech-frix ni baik la sbb lindungi ku.. hehehe..
    hmm tul jg apa2 pn nk tngk result dia msti pasa benchmark dia
    bru blh bezakn yg terbaik kn.. tp walauapapn msti ada klbhan dan
    kelemahan pd setiap GC 2 kn.. tngk npe NV lbh mahal dri ATi? ha
    kte kne kaji jg
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 12:52 am

    syukurz wrote:hmm abg tech-frix ni baik la sbb lindungi ku.. hehehe..
    hmm tul jg apa2 pn nk tngk result dia msti pasa benchmark dia
    bru blh bezakn yg terbaik kn.. tp walauapapn msti ada klbhan dan
    kelemahan pd setiap GC 2 kn.. tngk npe NV lbh mahal dri ATi? ha
    kte kne kaji jg

    senang je nak jawab soklan ko...
    Nv mahal sbb dia release model dia awal dari ATi...
    so dia bole pegang market...
    selepas ATi counter, ko bole tgk harga Nv jatuh mendadak...logik kan??
    so bg aku, aku dah test dari 3870,4850 dan 4830...
    and skrg aku pakai GTX260+...dah tu native reso 24"....mmg puas hati sesangat...
    StreetFighter 4 full high-setting, Prototype, Ghostbusters, FC2, CS:S, and semua game terbaru la aku tarik full sume...
    tgk movie full hd, 1080p and 720p....mmg puas hati....
    so itu je la yg aku ble share....hehe
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    Post by ammartok Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:07 am

    so...ak pon prefer Nvidia tuh...
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    Post by 47th Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:08 am

    Off topic skit. Sekadar info sekupang nak kongsi skit2. Kalau salah,xpa la.Aku xde la expert sgt.

    Aku pernah tertgk satu topic yg ada tulis about combination AMD dan ATi. Tapi aku da lupa and cari xjumpa da. Sekadar pendapat sekupang dari aku yg xterer lansung nih.

    Facts : http://arstechnica.com/hardware/news/2006/06/amd-ati.ars

    Sbg reseller cabuk, aku pernah tanya diorg about myth ni samada logic atau tak. Jawapan dia? Rahsia. Kalau nak tahu jawapan, jawapan dari org AMD yg aku jumpa waktu interview kat Spansion Penang dulu ada kaitan dengan link yg aku bg kat atas tu. Kat situ ada pembayangnya.

    AMD takkan simply take over ATi tanpa sebab, tambahan lagi time tu financial AMD teruk skit. Secara logik, kalau kita pemilik AMD, then ATi adalah produk kita, apa yg kita nak buat kat produk kita tu? Kalau dalam bisnes terms kita cakap 'cross selling'. Kita nak dua2 produk kita berjalan. Then yg penting, bila produk tu perform, kita leh jual murah skit sebab kita target margin based on quantity. Hybrid Crossfire pada chipset AMD? Untuk nVidia ke? ada tak mobo AMD ada SLi Hybrid pada chipset dia? Kenapa chipset nforce ada dlm senarai plg bawah harganya berbanding yg berchipset AMD? Ini pun antara pembayang jawapannya. Cuba bg comment utk gambir kat bwh ni :

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    Platform spider dan dragon dikhususkan dengan combination apa? Itu antara cara halus AMD jawab.
    Tapi mcm mana pun,nVidia xakan ada masalah untuk perform well kat platform AMD. Then chipset nForce sebenarnya lagi lancar bila combined dgn AMD compared dgn Intel dulu. So, ianya sebenarnya more to marketing gimmick?
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:19 am

    yup...even AMD fusion pun takde la boost performance mana...
    dia sekadar off background apps sahaja dan boost beberapa percent je...
    aku ada kawan kat LYN yg mmg hardcore AMD n ATi...
    so kitorg selalu compare benchie....
    boleh disimpulkan yg result tu base pada kita balik....
    jenis apps, game atau kegunaan asas pc kita...
    dan mcm bro kata, bro sendiri interview dgn staff AMD....
    kalau abang sembang ngn saya and saya kerja dgn intel...so abang rasa saya akan puji intel or tak??
    ni standard marketing staff....kira dari mulut ke mulut marketing....

    dan cakap pasal kombinasi, kita ble tgk ramai yg tak guna kombinasi AMD n ATi...
    diorg lagi prefer beli GC base on performance...
    even aku mmg fanboys setia ATi satu masa dulu....sebab dia adalah Nv mahal sangat2...
    then masa GTX260+ turun harga kaw2, aku trus sambar sbb nak test...
    mmmg puas hati gila....aku tak kata ATi tak elok cuma kalau Nv punya harga murah mcm ATi, boleh jadi market dia pegang...
    TQ...
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    Post by primaroti Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:10 pm

    nak bukti ape lagi dah mmg mcm tu..... nak buat mcm mane....??????????


    kalau nak sgt bukti pi youtube.....


    cari kat situ tulis ati vs nvidia.......
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    Post by primaroti Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:15 pm

    susah sgt simpan bajet dlam rm 1200 pegi lowyat beli terus asus 4890 1 gb voltage tweak...



    dah tentu dahsyat ........ Very Happy
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    Post by primaroti Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:19 pm

    geforce tu kalau nak beli saye suggest abik gtx 280 atau gtx 290


    kalu ati abik hd 4870, 4890, @tau 4870x2


    kalu nak tgk benchmark pegi beli sendiri gc lepas tu buat benchmark]


    beli gc geforce dengan ati skali senang.............
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    Post by syukurz Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:24 pm

    foh jgn la marah bang primaroti..
    dia just bgtau GC yg takkat GTX260 OC dgn HD 4830 kot..
    cmpare takat 2 kot, jalau yg lg power sy blh hantar NV GTX295
    dh murah skt skrg rm1600 lbh blh dpt ooo
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    Post by jemay Sun Jul 05, 2009 7:38 pm

    aku nak tanya satu soalan.bila aku buka citer street fighter dia punya gambar jadi sekat2 g tu.adakh gc aku problem.aku guna ati 512mb hd 2400 xt.
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:23 pm

    primaroti wrote:nak bukti ape lagi dah mmg mcm tu..... nak buat mcm mane....??????????


    kalau nak sgt bukti pi youtube.....


    cari kat situ tulis ati vs nvidia.......

    kalau tgk utube buat apa ko post kat sini....
    org share experience bukan cakap mcm tin kosong....
    tak payah tunjuk pandai kalau ko setakat tgk review kat net...guna otak la kawan...
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:25 pm

    primaroti wrote:susah sgt simpan bajet dlam rm 1200 pegi lowyat beli terus asus 4890 1 gb voltage tweak...



    dah tentu dahsyat ........ Very Happy

    tunjuk sket voltage tweak ko yg hebat tu??
    jom compare dgn card aku...
    all games native reso for 24"....
    start dari GTA4 sampai SF4....kalau ko tak boleh post aku anggap apa yg ko kata ni sampah...
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:26 pm

    syukurz wrote:foh jgn la marah bang primaroti..
    dia just bgtau GC yg takkat GTX260 OC dgn HD 4830 kot..
    cmpare takat 2 kot, jalau yg lg power sy blh hantar NV GTX295
    dh murah skt skrg rm1600 lbh blh dpt ooo

    sbb tu aku suruh dia post benchmark dia...
    kalau cakap kosong je buat apa...
    and pasal fusion tu, takde org bangga pun...
    dia fungsi mcm turn off back apps je...
    aku nak tau gak bro tu pakai card apa....sembang mcm power... Razz
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    Post by syukurz Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:45 pm

    hmm sbar bang.. sabar ye.. biakn dia..
    hmm sy beli GC gigabyte GTX 260 OC.. tp 2 la
    sbnarnya mcm ni.. pc sy x lengkap lg.. nk bli proc
    dia dgn ram dia blm bli lg.. sbnarnya pc sy blm siap bang
    sje nk tau GTX260 OC ok ke tak..
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    Post by tech_frix Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:13 pm

    syukurz wrote:hmm sbar bang.. sabar ye.. biakn dia..
    hmm sy beli GC gigabyte GTX 260 OC.. tp 2 la
    sbnarnya mcm ni.. pc sy x lengkap lg.. nk bli proc
    dia dgn ram dia blm bli lg.. sbnarnya pc sy blm siap bang
    sje nk tau GTX260 OC ok ke tak..

    tgk bajet boss...
    kalau rasa ble ambik 275, proceed r...
    tp kalau rasa bajet kecik, 4870 tgh sale kaw2 ni....apa lagi??hehe
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    Post by syukurz Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:55 pm

    hmm Ati 4870 ok e? brbanding GTX260 OC?
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    Post by Hiruka Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:48 pm

    Old fabrication GTX260 msih HD4870 leads. Latest GTX260+ leh pawn HD4870 hanya kerana Physx je klu x slh aku tu pon bukan sumer. Tu pon more boost on FPS. For graphic texture and Shader, ATi still lead the market bg aku..hoho Laughing
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    Post by tech_frix Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:29 pm

    bg aku plak, margin performance dalam 5% je...
    4870 lead sbb best bang for a buck...
    RM499 ble dapat 512mb punya 4870...kira murah la tu...

    kalau masuk Image Quality, bg aku Nv dah sama tahap dgn ATi...
    mmg nampak ada game favor ATi and banyak game favor Nv(Nv dah lobi game developer...hehe)
    tp kesimpulan dia base pada user sendiri la...
    jenis apps dan game yg dia main...dan reso LCD yg dirg pakai...hehe
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    Post by 47th Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:58 pm

    Kat mana leh dapat 4870 yg rm499 tu? kedai or user? warranty ok tak? murah gile tu.huhu bes. Good value.
    TEch, kalu xkeberatan share la skit kat mana dapat tu Smile

    Kalu kat lowyat, xde lagi review dr user. Hope ada org yg dah beli kat dia n bg review. Kalu ok, mmg nak gak angkat satu.
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    Post by tech_frix Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:09 pm

    47th wrote:Kat mana leh dapat 4870 yg rm499 tu? kedai or user? warranty ok tak? murah gile tu.huhu bes. Good value.
    TEch, kalu xkeberatan share la skit kat mana dapat tu Smile

    Kalu kat lowyat, xde lagi review dr user. Hope ada org yg dah beli kat dia n bg review. Kalu ok, mmg nak gak angkat satu.

    kat LYN banyak gila org jual...
    kalau bundle ngn cooler ada yg sampai RM399....
    tak silap aku kat cycom ada yg murah gak...
    esk aku p LYP aku inform k...? Smile
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    Post by 47th Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:20 pm

    Itu arr..

    Heran gak nape harga dia jatuh terguling2.

    TQ bro. Smile
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    Post by tech_frix Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:39 pm

    47th wrote:Itu arr..

    Heran gak nape harga dia jatuh terguling2.

    TQ bro. Smile

    standard la bro...
    aku pun tak tau mcm mana ATi ble main harga mcm tu...
    mmg ATi d best when it come to pricing...
    tp aku pakai GTX260+ pun dah puas...hehe
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    Post by 47th Mon Jul 06, 2009 10:05 pm

    GTX260 ni cukup lawa dengan 3 kipas tu. Huhu geram tgk. Skrg paling murah utk GTX260 yg leh dpt just rm680.

    Waktu aku nak beli HD4830 ni pun kebetulan hari yg sama dia jatuh harga. Dapat rm300 lebey je. Sekarang da jarang nampak da hd4830. Hehe alhamdulillah rezki ari tu.
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    Post by tech_frix Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:41 pm

    47th wrote:GTX260 ni cukup lawa dengan 3 kipas tu. Huhu geram tgk. Skrg paling murah utk GTX260 yg leh dpt just rm680.

    Waktu aku nak beli HD4830 ni pun kebetulan hari yg sama dia jatuh harga. Dapat rm300 lebey je. Sekarang da jarang nampak da hd4830. Hehe alhamdulillah rezki ari tu.

    YUP...4830 MMG BERBALOI....
    aku pernah pakai xfx 4830 and mmg puas hati la...
    tp bila pakai 24" mmg agak out la...native reso tinggi sangat...huhu

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