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    Mengarak Kepala Lembu Bantah Pembina Kuil Hindu. Apa kata korang?

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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:23 am

    saya beragama Islam, kalau orang bercakap benda tak baik pasal Melayu saya pun terasa. but y saya kena terasa when saya juga bukan Melayu? pergilah bercakap dengan muaalaf semua please. pasal Islam lah abang-abang semua. di Malaysia seseorang tidak akan Melayu jika bukan beragama Islam. apa yang mereka iri hati sangat dengan taraf bumiputera saya pun tak tau when pada saya taraf itu hanyalah sebagai nama saja. u mau bercakap pasal hak asasi manusia? tunggulah nanti bila mereka berani sekali lagi question pasal pertukaran agama, then saya mau tengok abang-abang disini setuju or tak setuju.

    p/s: saya menjadi muslimah semasa saya masih lagi single & bukan kerana perkahwinan dengan Melayu/Islam.


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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:26 am

    fair wrote:Terima kasih Chloe kerana menulis secara jujur. And Matthew, plse take off your tinted glasses. stop deceiving yourself.

    I wonder who's the one with the tinted glasses. Hmmm...

    After all these years, we are still a country with first world infrastructures but with third world mentalities.
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:30 am

    3rd mentalities due to the non-bumi whom never appreciate of what they gained in Malaysia.
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:38 am

    Apa yang dikatakan sentimen melayu sebenarnya Melayu mempertahankan hak-haknya kerana tidak mahu jadi terpinggir seperti di Singapura yang semua maklum dulunya dibawah kesultanan Johor. Kalau mengikut sejarah Sultan Johor boleh menuntut hak nenek moyangnya. tapi orang Melayu tidak greedy atau rakus, berpuas hati dengan apa yang ada dan sentiasa menjaga kedamaian.

    Namun apa yang berlaku sekarang adalah permintaan yang keterlaluan daripada pihak yang greedy tanpa memikirkan perasaan kaum Melayu.

    Terdapat blog-blog di internet yang menghina Islam, Melayu dan hak-hak di bumi Tanah Malayu. Apakah Melayu terpaksa bangkit mempertahan hak-haknya atau hanya biarkan saja ditelah arus. Kalau inginkan perpaduan, takkanlah Melayu sahaja yang memberi dan bangsa lain hanya mengambil. Kaum yang tidak pernah berpuas hati ini berani mengatakan mereka ditindas walhal mereka menjadi kaya raya, kalau ditindas bagamana mungkin menjadi jutawan semuanya!
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:43 am

    mereka akan bercakap ditindas bila kemahuan mereka tidak dapat, then mula lah keluar racism issue. Melayu pula pun 1 hal.. bangsa lain bersatu Melayu berpecah belah pasal fahaman politik berbeza, tak tau menjaga kepentingan bangsa sendiri di tanahair sendiri. oopppsss.. Melayu tak boleh buat macam itu kerana nanti akan dituduh racist.
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:46 am

    Matthew, If this country is China or India, you think Malays will get better treatment?
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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:47 am

    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:3rd mentalities due to the non-bumi whom never appreciate of what they gained in Malaysia.

    For example?
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:49 am

    saya sudah cakap dulu, kalau Melayu lah yang tuntut seperti mereka di China/India, boleh kah Melayu survive lama?
    mau puji negara lain, adakah disana terdapat menteri dari bangsa mereka dalam cabinet?
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:51 am

    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:mereka akan bercakap ditindas bila kemahuan mereka tidak dapat, then mula lah keluar racism issue. Melayu pula pun 1 hal.. bangsa lain bersatu Melayu berpecah belah pasal fahaman politik berbeza, tak tau menjaga kepentingan bangsa sendiri di tanahair sendiri. oopppsss.. Melayu tak boleh buat macam itu kerana nanti akan dituduh racist.

    Betul tu , melayu tak boleh buka mulut, nanti racist, nanti 3rd world mentality heh, heh,. well MINORITY RULEZ
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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:52 am

    fair wrote:Matthew, If this country is China or India, you think Malays will get better treatment?

    It is not the case of better treatment, it is the case of equal treatment.

    Why are we even diverting from the original topic?
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:55 am

    yes!! equal treatment like what??? tell me.. i wanna know.
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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:56 am

    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:saya sudah cakap dulu, kalau Melayu lah yang tuntut seperti mereka di China/India, boleh kah Melayu survive lama?
    mau puji negara lain, adakah disana terdapat menteri dari bangsa mereka dalam cabinet?

    If the person is the citizen of the country, irregardless of their race, what's the problem?

    fair wrote:
    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:mereka akan bercakap ditindas bila kemahuan mereka tidak dapat, then mula lah keluar racism issue. Melayu pula pun 1 hal.. bangsa lain bersatu Melayu berpecah belah pasal fahaman politik berbeza, tak tau menjaga kepentingan bangsa sendiri di tanahair sendiri. oopppsss.. Melayu tak boleh buat macam itu kerana nanti akan dituduh racist.

    Betul tu , melayu tak boleh buka mulut, nanti racist, nanti 3rd world mentality heh, heh,. well MINORITY RULEZ

    Kalau buka mulut keluar benda rasional takpa la... ini... heh.
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:59 am

    still waiting for Matthew's response for so called, "equal" treatment.
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:05 am

    matthew wrote:
    fair wrote:Matthew, If this country is China or India, you think Malays will get better treatment?

    It is not the case of better treatment, it is the case of equal treatment.

    Why are we even diverting from the original topic?

    Don't you have food, clothing and if not millions, enough for you to be comfortable. what is it that you are lacking. you're not happy, why stay? The top 10 lists of millionares are all non Malays. How do you think they get rich, if they're not given help, ask Lim Goh Tong. Where do they get their resources. Why is it that you are never happy. Don't your religion or human decency teach you to be grateful and not bite the hand that feed you?
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:05 am

    y should the government abolish bumi quota? are the non-bumi thesedays become poorer due to this quota?

    Matthew, the bumi priviledges are not only gained by the Malays fyi.. Malacca portuguese, eurasian, sarawakian, sabahan, aborigines, indianmuslim & also those who converted to Islam are given the status bumi.

    see yourself! inilah 1 contoh yang sangat obvious tuntutan dari seorang non-bumi disini, dia cakap "FIRST STEP" - abolish quota (walaupun dia tak mention bumiputera quota tapi memang itulah maksud dia). i like to see whats gonna be his "SECOND".


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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:18 am

    yes, ive heard it many times. so now, tell me, whats your SECOND will be?
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:23 am

    i do really hope out government will fullfil their demands. if not they'll keeps saying the same, "injustice". Matthew, please be reminded, i was a non-bumi too... but later due to my conversion, i am now. anyhow, i dont feel any speciality by having this status. so what makes u so annoyed for this bumi status?


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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:25 am

    matthew wrote:
    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:saya sudah cakap dulu, kalau Melayu lah yang tuntut seperti mereka di China/India, boleh kah Melayu survive lama?
    mau puji negara lain, adakah disana terdapat menteri dari bangsa mereka dalam cabinet?

    If the person is the citizen of the country, irregardless of their race, what's the problem?

    The problem is you want equality but you do not want to embrace the country and the people. You want to be Chinese or Indians, your own thing, not become malaysians.

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    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:mereka akan bercakap ditindas bila kemahuan mereka tidak dapat, then mula lah keluar racism issue. Melayu pula pun 1 hal.. bangsa lain bersatu Melayu berpecah belah pasal fahaman politik berbeza, tak tau menjaga kepentingan bangsa sendiri di tanahair sendiri. oopppsss.. Melayu tak boleh buat macam itu kerana nanti akan dituduh racist.

    Betul tu , melayu tak boleh buka mulut, nanti racist, nanti 3rd world mentality heh, heh,. well MINORITY RULEZ

    Kalau buka mulut keluar benda rasional takpa la... ini... heh.
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:34 am

    ChloeAgnew3 wrote:i do really hope out government will fullfil their demands. if not they'll keeps saying the same, "injustice". Matthew, please be reminded, i was a non-bumi too... but later due to my conversion, i am now. anyhow, i dont feel any speciality by having this status. so what makes u so annoyed for this bumi status?


    Betul, budak melayu yang pandai pun susah juga nak dapat scholarship, apa matthew tu ingat kuota banyak sangat. Melayu ramailah. Ok i setuju meritoracy, tapi jangan pulak kaum india bising minta kuota. cina pun bukan semua boleh dapat. lemaklah kalau semua boleh dapat. no problem merit boleh saja. apa masalah. bumis ramai juga yang pandai, jangan marah kalau tak dapat nanti.
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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:43 am

    If you want more on equality, chew on this:

    Why did the police catch the candlelight vigil participants from hindraf but did not bother to touch the cow head people on the spot? Only after much media highlight are they charged in court. Equality?
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    Post by fair Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:00 am

    I think the Hindraf are treated better here than if they are in India. if the you did the same thing in India they would have been lost without trace by now. So are they in jail here? After telling the foreign press that Malaysian govt are killing indians, I wonder why do they stay? Any idea Matthew?

    If they are being treated so badly, I really think they should leave for a rosier place, don't you think so?
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    Post by matthew Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:19 am

    fair wrote:I think the Hindraf are treated better here than if they are in India. if the you did the same thing in India they would have been lost without trace by now. So are they in jail here? After telling the foreign press that Malaysian govt are killing indians, I wonder why do they stay? Any idea Matthew?

    If they are being treated so badly, I really think they should leave for a rosier place, don't you think so?

    Why are you evading the issue i mentioned above by comparing with india? we're talking about malaysia. please stop touring the world. why the different standard when it comes to protesters? so actions are taken based on party affiliations?

    About your last statement are you saying malaysian indians should leave malaysia just because they're asking for equality as well? I don't think so and i didn't say that. You were the one who said it.
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    Post by betik Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:20 am

    matthew wrote:The real bumis should be the orang aslis.
    i've heard this far too many times...they were based on the fact that the malacca sultan was from palembang, malays were the imigrants from indonesia and so on...if we go back to history, there're many other kingdoms prior to malacca sultanate (e.g: Langkasuka) dated back to 1 AD...the aborigins were not alone all along...and don't forget this part of the world including malaysia was known as malay archipelago...

    as for this topic, i can understand their frustation...but the way they took things into their own measure by offending other religion was fully stupid...we must respect other religions if we want the same from others...
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    Post by ChloeAgnew3 Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:22 am

    great! another common aquisition from the non-bumi here of the actual bumi is the orang asli. oklah biar saya bercakap dalam bahasa melayu walaupun tak baik. Matthew, duh... u ada belajar sejarah kah? ada kah buku sejarah mencatatkan penduduk asal Malaysia ini orang asli? yang saya tau semua bercakap pasal Melayu. funny lah u, ini lah kalau sudah tak tau apa mau cakap, so u rasa di China & India tak ada orang asli disana pun banyak kenapa tak timbul soal? di America, siapa kah penduduk asli? red indian ataupun caucasian? apa lagi yang mereka mau bangkitkan pasal keistimewaan Melayu di negara sendiri saya pun tak tau.

    berapakah statistik Melayu yang membeli rumah bagi menikmati potongan 5% bukanya 10% ok. adakah setiap hari Melayu beli rumah? so kalau beli rumah saja mendapat keistimewaan, kalau tak beli tak dapat rite?

    lagi sekali saya berharap sangat kerajaan menghapuskan terus keistimewaan bumiputera bagi memenuhi tuntutan bukan bumi. selepas itu kita dengar apa pula yang akan mereka minta. Matthew, saya masih lagi menunggu apakah dia no.2 selepas no.1 u cakap hapuskan bumi kuota.

    orang yang bagi kacau pasal kepala lembu akan didakwa ok, so itu sudah sama rata.


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    Post by betik Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:23 am

    matthew wrote:If you want more on equality, chew on this:

    Why did the police catch the candlelight vigil participants from hindraf but did not bother to touch the cow head people on the spot? Only after much media highlight are they charged in court. Equality?
    the hindraf issue has been the national security issue long enough...please take note that malaysians were aware what the danger hindraf movement posed even before they took it on the streets...but were they been dragged to the jail before they rallied at the british high commision?..

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